my sense is by fairly common ascent we could say that president obama has not been the most socialible president with congress. i talked to red state senators, democratic senators who have never been to the white house and they're sort of famous, there aren't a lot of notes. it's an odd blind spot for for--since voters and reporters are pretty much easy dates. it's not hard to sort of build a little good will, and jefferson did that. he didn't love everybody who came to dinner, but when the congressional session began, he would write his daughters and say, i shall now become an un unpuncutual correspondence. he would have all republicans one night. all federalists the next night. he said i believe that measures in congress are more likely to pass if members of congress feel they're part of the executive conversation. >> gavin: jon, thank you for being here. congratulations on a wonderful book. >> appreciate it. >> gavin: from the past to our future. up next how television screens are likely to dominate our lives but not necessarily in the way you think. cisco's padma warrior is our nex